2023 DRAFT
Well, we knew QB BRYCE YOUNG was small for a QB. We didn’t know he was QB KYLER MURRAY small. Donnie Druin of SI.com:
The Arizona Cardinals won’t be selecting Alabama Crimson Tide QB Bryce Young, though he’s fairly similar to their own franchise quarterback in Kyler Murray.
Young – a Heisman trophy winner and CFP national champion – has been the subject of heavy dialogue and conversation despite his talent, play and production. Young’s height and frame typically don’t bode well at the next level, and plenty were curious to see exactly what Young would come in at when he was measured by NFL Combine officials on Saturday.
As it turns out, Young has extremely similar measurables to Murray.
Murray height: 5′ 10 1/8″
Young height: 5′ 10 1/8″
Murray weight: 207 pounds
Young weight: 204 pounds
Murray hand size: 9 1/2″
Young hand size: 9 3/4″
Murray – who also won the Heisman trophy in college at Oklahoma – is built fairly similar but also a very different quarterback. Murray’s notably quicker, more dangerous as a runner and is able to evade pressure thanks to his agility.
There’s been concerns about Murray’s durability at the next level – and Murray has battled injury at some point through the last three seasons. His inability to read the middle of the field thanks to his height has also hindered him at times.
That’s the life of a quarterback in the prototype of Murray, one built with shortcomings but ultimately not devastating. Murray’s flashed his brilliance on more than one occasion and he’s been rewarded with a handsome contract.
The jury is still out on exactly what Young is capable of doing at the next level, though Murray and other quarterbacks have shown that size doesn’t tell the entire story on the football field.
Charles Robinson of YahooSports.com goes deeper:
As soon as the height and weight digits trickled down Saturday morning for Alabama quarterback Bryce Young, the predictable avalanche of comparison rumbled in behind it.
Standing 5-feet-10 and 1/8th of an inch tall. Weighing in at 204 pounds. Cue the social media jukebox and set it for replay …
Just like Kyler Murray, who registered the exact same height at the NFL combine in 2019 and came in only three pounds heavier.
A lazy comparison?
“Absolutely,” an NFC West talent evaluator told Yahoo Sports.
“That was what we expected,” chimed in another evaluator, who spent significant time canvassing both Young and Murray. “We knew [the similarities] even if fans didn’t.”
In a world of NFL Draft study that is seemingly always seeking road maps for comparison, Alabama’s Young has long seemed destined to fall into the 2019 “Murray conundrum” — a debate that weighs elite level quarterback talent against the risk of sub-optimal size.
Murray shouldered that burden four years ago when the Arizona Cardinals were zeroing in on the former Oklahoma quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick, focusing a portion of their evaluation by mapping him against stature-deficient QBs like now-retired Drew Brees and Russell Wilson.
The end of that road featured Murray being deemed worth the risk of not featuring ideal quarterback size, resulting in his selection with the first pick. Yes, he wasn’t in the league’s QB wheelhouse that falls somewhere around 6-4 and 225 pounds. But Murray’s overall skills were special enough that the Cardinals rolled the dice on him being one of the history-defying outliers.
Now we’re four seasons and a handful of injuries later, and the dice roll on Murray has been met with mixed reviews. Undoubtedly one of the league’s most dynamic playmakers when he’s performing at his peak, the questions dogging Murray now have been about his leadership and inability to play through seasons without some kind of impactful injury. Despite those continued questions, he landed a five-year, $230.5 million contract extension, cementing his stature as a player who defines the “outlying” class of quarterbacks. And with that, he joins the class of Brees and Wilson when it comes to pressing Young’s evaluation against historic predecessors.
But as was the case comparing Murray against Brees and Wilson in 2019, evaluators are rolling their eyes at those who are drawing a direct line between Young and Murray.
“Size is the only thing they have in common,” the NFC West evaluator said.
That opinion wasn’t an anomaly, either. Seven evaluators from different teams all expressed some version of the same conclusion: Other than height and weight, Murray and Young have dramatic differences in their game and skill level, including some that favor Murray and others that favor Young. And even when it comes to that size comparison, predicting a similar injury path is tricky at best because teams don’t view them as being built to handle some of the same rigors, either.
“Height and weight isn’t even an accurate [predictor] if you’re debating how you feel about the potential for an injury,” an NFC general manager said. “Drew [Brees] and Russell [Wilson] next to each other — not to knock Drew, but Russell looks like he can take some hits. Drew looks like he’s in competitive cycling. Now put those two next to Cam Newton in a draft. S***, Cam looked like he could have been a defensive end. And everyone would have been wrong about who was going to be durable between those three. Partly because of how each guy played the position. We can’t ignore that. But that’s going to be a similar thing with Bryce Young and Kyler Murray, too.”
Asked to parse out the differences between Young and Murray if they really aren’t similar players beyond their size, there was a consensus on almost every point. Murray was evaluated as a more elite athlete — with a better arm, better athleticism and a more evasive running style. He also is a player who teams believe represented an accurate weight when he came in at 207 pounds in 2019.
“Kyler is more physically gifted across the board,” one AFC general manager said. “Bryce is the more skilled passer and mature person and professional. I think Bryce will be better when he is in the field but I question whether he will hold up from a durability standpoint without elite physical traits to escape. I would bet he didn’t play [at Alabama] at 204. I think he’ll fill in as he gets older later in his career.”
While Murray was seen as the more elite athlete in the evaluations, Young’s leadership appears to be part of the assessment that draws raves that Murray didn’t.
“He’s got leadership skills and character without drama,” one evaluator said. “[Bryce] is also more like Drew Brees in that he plays bigger than his size from the pocket. Watch Bryce’s throwing motion and tell me it doesn’t look more like Drew Brees.”
In that vein, all the evaluators seemed to agree: If Young is going to be realistically compared to anyone, Murray is just noise in the system created by the similarities in weight and height. The better comparison might be removing the two from each other completely.
This story, it seems, is about seeing where Young stacks up against Wilson and Brees, rather than how he fits alongside Murray or any of the quarterbacks in the class of 2023.
As one evaluator put it, “four years from now we might be looking at [Young] like he wasn’t a great comp for anyone before him. He’s probably a little different than all of them.”
Meanwhile, the QB who ticks all the Combine boxes is ANTHONY RICHARDSON of Florida. Michael David Smith of ProFootballTalk.com:
Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson may have done more than any other player to improve his draft stock at the Scouting Combine.
Richardson was outstanding in Indianapolis, and as a result he’s now listed behind Alabama’s Bryce Young in the betting odds to be the first quarterback drafted. Young remains the favorite at -240, but Richardson is now second at +380.
Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud has moved down to third at +430, while Kentucky’s Will Levis is a long shot at +1100. The extreme long shots are Stanford’s Tanner McKee at +7500 and Tennessee’s Hendon Hooker at +7500.
How did Richardson do it? By putting on one of the most impressive performances in Scouting Combine history. His vertical jump was the best ever for a quarterback. His broad jump was also the best ever for a quarterback. At 6-foot-4 and 240 pounds, with a 40-yard dash time of 4.43 seconds, he would be considered an elite athletic prospect at any position, not just quarterback.
But even more impressive was Richardson’s arm in the throwing drills. Richardson unleashed a series of 60-yard throws that landed in his receivers’ hands. Richardson’s arm talent is remarkable.
Richardson is not a perfect prospect. He completed just 53.8 percent of his passes last season at Florida, and he started just 13 games in his college football career. Completion percentage and games started are two of the college quarterback stats with the best track record for predicting NFL success, and Richardson ranks near the bottom of all the quarterbacks in this year’s draft in both categories.
But some NFL team is going to fall in love with Richardson’s raw talent, make him a first-round pick, and hope to develop him into a franchise starter for years to come.
Jordan Dajani of CBSSports.com tries to figure out who the team smitten by Richardson will be:
As many predicted would happen, Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson took over the 2023 NFL Combine. He ranked first among all quarterbacks in height at 6-4 1/4″ and weight (244 pounds), ranked first at the 40-yard dash (4.43) and registered a 40.5″ vertical and 10’9″ broad jump. Yes, those both ranked first among all quarterbacks as well.
The 21-year-old’s 4.43 40-yard dash was the second-fastest 40 time recorded by a first-round quarterback at the NFL Combine since 2006, per ESPN. The 10’9″ broad jump was also an NFL Combine record for a quarterback. The bottom line is that Richardson tore it up, and boosted his draft stock — so much so that he could go No. 1 overall next month.
While Richardson established himself as one of the most intriguing prospects in this class, where would he fit best in the NFL? There’s no doubt he’s a raw quarterback; would he be best suited to sit for a year, or is he a Day 1 starter? Below we break down the top 10 potential landing spots that would serve as the best fits for Richardson.
10. Indianapolis Colts
Former Colts head coach Chuck Pagano said this offseason that Indy needs to stop messing around with these veteran quarterbacks and draft their new signal-caller, and he’s absolutely right. Former Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Shane Steichen is now in charge, and we saw how Jalen Hurts turned the corner once he took over as play-caller. Maybe the Colts don’t have the best roster in the NFL, but they have a solid defense, one of the best running backs in the league in Jonathan Taylor and a prospective No. 1 wideout in Michael Pittman Jr. CBS Sports NFL Draft expert Chris Trapasso predicted in a recent mock the Colts trade up to No. 1 overall to select Richardson. It could happen.
9. Baltimore Ravens
No one knows what’s going to happen with Lamar Jackson, but it’s possible he’s playing elsewhere in 2023. If that’s the case, Baltimore will have to reevaluate the most important position in football. While the Cam Newton comparisons were inevitable with Richardson, he received some Lamar-like praise as well. In fact, Richardson said he started calling himself “Cam Jackson” in high school. No joke.
We know Richardson can run the ball, and he has a cannon for an arm — even if that cannon needs some polishing. John Harbaugh had a hand in developing a quarterback into a perennial MVP contender. Maybe he could do the same for Richardson. At the same time, losing Jackson would make for an automatic downgrade.
8. Atlanta Falcons
The Falcons have already decided to part ways with Marcus Mariota, and then Desmond Ridder didn’t exactly light the world on fire in Year 1. Head coach Arthur Smith needs to do something to stay off the hot seat, and landing Richardson could be exactly what the doctor ordered.
For one, Smith comes from Tennessee, where he found success scheming for the run. He’s attempting to do the same in Atlanta, and got Tyler Allgeier to 1,000-plus yards rushing on 4.9 yards per carry in his rookie season. Bringing in a big body like Richardson, who is also a fast player, would fit this offense. Richardson would also have a former Florida weapon to work with in Kyle Pitts, plus Drake London.
7. Carolina Panthers
The Panthers have been searching for their new franchise quarterback since parting ways with Newton a few years ago. With Frank Reich now in charge, he will be looking for his new quarterback. After what happened in Indy, he understands how important this decision is.
Reich may be one of the best hires from this coaching cycle. Not only does he understand that his new young defense is the “secret sauce” that can serve as the Panthers’ identity, but he also understands that you have to run the ball to be a championship team. Even without Christian McCaffrey for the majority of the season, Carolina finished with the No. 10 overall rushing offense, thanks to D’Onta Foreman and Chuba Hubbard. Carolina could be an ideal landing spot for a young quarterback whose best football days are ahead of him. Plus, the Cam Newton comparisons are right there.
6. Las Vegas Raiders
Maybe the Raiders don’t have the best coaching staff in the NFL, but look at the setup on offense. Josh Jacobs is back in the fold for 2023 with the franchise tag, and then Davante Adams and Darren Waller are under contract. Yes, the AFC West is probably the toughest division in the NFL, but that’s even more of a reason to shoot for the moon with a prospect like Richardson.
5. Washington Commanders
OK, hear me out. The Commanders’ identity remains on the defensive side of the ball, and they have a very solid unit led by one of the best defensive lines in the league. Offensively, while Washington is making progress, it still needs to find that franchise quarterback. Richardson could be that guy.
The Commanders have a talented trio of wideouts in Terry McLaurin, Curtis Samuel and Jahan Dotson, two good backs in Brian Robinson Jr. and Antonio Gibson and now have one of the best offensive coordinators in the league in Eric Bieniemy. The Commanders will be exciting if they can find the right quarterback.
4. Seattle Seahawks
Pete Carroll showed the NFL world last year that he didn’t need Russell Wilson to be successful, as the Seahawks made the playoffs while the Denver Broncos did not. What I like about this situation in Seattle is that Richardson does not have to play right away. Seattle likes Geno Smith, and the veteran has said things are “looking very good” when it comes to a potential contract extension. It’s entirely possible that Richardson could sit more than one year. Smith gives Seattle that kind of flexibility. The Seahawks are getting better on defense, have a young back with massive potential in Kenneth Walker III and then, of course, D.K. Metcalf.
3. Detroit Lions
The Lions turned the corner last year, as Dan Campbell led the franchise to their first winning record since 2017. Detroit also came close to making the postseason for the first time since 2016, and is clearly on the right track. Campbell likes Jared Goff, but he’s not the “future” at the position. Richardson can sit behind him, learn from the veteran signal-caller as well as offensive coordinator Ben Johnson and then take over with Jameson Williams in a year or two.
2. Minnesota Vikings
While it’s probably unlikely, I think the Vikings would be one of the best landing spots for Richardson. For one, Kevin O’Connell is a young offensive-minded head coach who accomplished plenty in his first NFL season. The Vikings also have a great running back in Dalvin Cook, and then arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL in Justin Jefferson. To round it out, Richardson could sit behind Kirk Cousins, and then eventually fill his shoes in what may be a seamless transition.
1. New York Giants
Daniel Jones reportedly wants more than $45 million per year? No thanks. How about franchise-tagging Jones, and drafting an even more athletic quarterback who reminds some of former Wyoming gunslinger Josh Allen? We saw what Brian Daboll did with Allen in Buffalo. Maybe the best landing spot for Richardson is teaming him up with the reigning NFL Coach of the Year in New York. While I’m comfortable saying this will not happen, it’s pretty exciting to think about. Developing Richardson is the most important thing when it comes to examining where he should land.
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At the Combine, RB BIJAN ROBINSON makes the case for his early draft selection, based on being more than a normal running back. Jeff Legwold of ESPN.com:
Texas running back Bijan Robinson knows the math may be against him, but he said there should be no hesitation about selecting him early in the first round of the upcoming NFL draft.
Robinson, who won the Doak Walker Award as the nation’s best running back, said if it makes the league’s decision-makers feel better, they should just call him a player who can “create mismatches all over the field,” even if it means lining him up at wide receiver.
“First of all, I feel like if you’re a guy who can do all three for your offense, I think that’s a very special quality for a player,” Robinson said Saturday at the NFL scouting combine. “You line a player up at receiver, at slot or, obviously, at running back. Just creating mismatches all over the field and being able to create space for yourself … that’s a high value everybody should look at.”
Robinson, a unanimous All-America selection in 2022, ranks fourth in Longhorns history with 3,410 rushing yards, including 1,580 yards and 18 touchdowns this past season. He also led the nation’s running backs in broken tackles.
He is ranked as the No. 6 overall draft prospect by ESPN NFL Draft insider Mel Kiper Jr.
Robinson said he hope he matches the draft fortunes of the New York Giants’ Saquon Barkley, who many have compared him to. Barkley was selected at No. 2 in the 2018 draft — the highest pick for a running back since Reggie Bush was taken No. 2 in 2006.
Many personnel executives in the league believe drafting a running back in the top half of the first round is unwise.
“I don’t want to say it’s unfair. … You just never know on that day where you’re going to go,” Robinson said. “For me, it’s important to keep enjoying the moment. We might get to draft day and some surprise could happen. You just never know.”
Alabama linebacker Will Anderson Jr., the consensus No. 1 pick by ESPN’s analysts, said earlier this week at the combine that Robinson was the best opposing player he had faced in his career.
“I appreciate him saying that,” Robinson said. “It’s cool to have somebody like that in your corner. … I just feel at the size that I’m at and the things I can do on the field, whether it’s pass catch, line up at receiver, line up at slot. Just pretty much line up anywhere you need me to be; if you can run routes and the next play, line up and run between the tackles.”
Asked about his own evaluation of his play, Robinson invoked the name of Hall of Famer Barry Sanders.
“I’m a knee-bender when I run the ball, and another guy who was a knee-bender was Barry Sanders,” Robinson said. “To try to redirect, to try to be as low to the ground as you can and understand you’ve got to feel defenders and read their shoulders and read angles, to try to break as a many tackles as you can. … I take pride in that.
“… I’m trying to dissect it, trying to create open holes, create lanes for myself no matter what it is, eight in the box, nine in the box, seven in the box. I’m just trying always to find ways.”
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It looks like the fastest player in the draft is a Wolverine. Legwold:
Michigan cornerback DJ Turner put himself on one of history’s shortest lists at the NFL’s scouting combine Friday, running the 40-yard dash in a blazing 4.26 seconds at Lucas Oil Stadium.
It is the fourth-fastest time in the 40 at the combine since 2003, according to NFL Next Gen Stats.
YEAR PLAYER 40 TIME
2017 John Ross 4.22
2022 Kalon Barnes 4.23
2008 Chris Johnson 4.24
2014 Dri Archer 4.26
2005 Jerome Mathis 4.26
2022 Tariq Woolen 4.26
2023 DJ Turner 4.26
Wide receiver John Ross’ time of 4.22 seconds at the 2017 combine is considered the fastest on record. Minnesota Vikings cornerback Kalon Barnes ran a 4.23 at the combine last year.
Turner, a two-year starter for the Wolverines, was the fastest player in the first of two groups of defensive backs who participated in the on-field workouts Friday. Players are given two attempts at the 40 in each of the combine workouts, but Turner opted not to run the second.
According to Michigan’s GPS tracking system, Turner reached a speed of 23.07 mph this past season.
Turner, who started 14 games for the Wolverines this past season, is ranked No. 155 overall among draft-eligible players by Scouts Inc., and ESPN NFL draft analyst Matt Miller has him as the No. 5 cornerback on the board.
He finished the 2022 season with 36 tackles, 11 pass breakups and an interception. In 2021, Turner played 13 games, starting eight, and had two interceptions.
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Peter King on the odd timing of DT JALEN CARTER’s arrest warrant and the feeling there might be more to it and less to him:
Lots of authorities had the Georgia defensive tackle as the top prospect in the draft entering the Combine. But oddly and perhaps significantly, on the day Carter reported to the Combine, the Athens-Clarke County (Ga.) Police issued an arrest warrant for Carter for reckless driving and racing in connection with the car-accident deaths of a Georgia player and recruiting staffer. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Carter left the scene of the crime and then misled police about the case. Carter left the Combine, turned himself into authorities in Georgia, then returned to the Combine and participated in interviews with teams Thursday night. Why do I question the timing of it all? The accident happened on Jan. 15. Exactly 45 days later, on the day he reported to the signature pre-draft event, the police issued the arrest warrant; Carter’s reputation and draft stock took a major hit. The seriousness of the charge—which Carter denies—could derail Carter’s career if proven. Aside from the legalities, when this happened is just odd. If Carter was highly regarded by the program and the community, would the case have been handled like this, giving him a black eye on the day of his big job interviews instead of three days before or three days after? “You’re not the only one to think that,” one GM told me Friday. “I believe it was absolutely calculated.” This, of course, comes on the heels of ESPN’s Todd McShay saying there were character concerns about Carter. Carter’s history at Georgia will be a story to be followed between now and draft weekend.
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